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FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 27, 2010 at 22:08
Seriously?
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 27, 2010 at 21:47
Ah.... I finally worked it out. My brain is melting. You were right. LRR is what it is stated to be.Equity = $5,000Leverage = 1:100Margin available to trade = $5,000 x 100 = $500,000LRR = 17Amt to use for next trade = $500,000 x 0.17 = $85,000The trade is EURUSD, exchange rate at that point was 1.3614Amount of EUR to buy = $85,000/1.3614 = EUR 62,435.73 = 0.62 lots--------------Next trade will be calculated from the remaining leveraged amount = $500,000 - $85,000 = $415,000Amt to use for next trade = $415,000 x 0.17 = $70,550Amount of EUR to buy = $70,550/1.3614 = EUR 51,825.46 = 0.51 lots----...
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 27, 2010 at 20:36
Ah.... I finally worked it out. My brain is melting. Reserving this slot to post the explanation. Looks like you are right. LRR is what it is stated to be.
FAPTurbo
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Feb 27, 2010 at 17:10
Are you using the latest version of FapTurbo? v49?I understand there are loads of settings available and that you'll need to tweak and monitor it to fully maximise the system. Is this true? Or can you use them out of the box?
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 27, 2010 at 09:25
One observation about Super Volcano is that without setting SL via pip or Maximum Risk, it closes only when the right trigger occurs. The Maximum Risk setting was taken out of the Super Volcano component of Fusion. I don't know why. I suppose it might have conflicted with the global MM setting and we're now left with the manual pip SL. Another thing about the standalone Super Volcano is that I don't think it calculates lotsizing. You have to define lotsize then maximum risk can be calculated from that.
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 27, 2010 at 00:00
Lots Risk Reductor is not the same as Maximum Risk per position. For one trade event which opens multiple positions, it reduces the next position's lot size by that factor.Next position's lot size = Current position's lotsize - Current position's lotsize x Lots Risk Reductor/100Useful when you cannot define a SL. Or for calculating the next position size when you do not, cannot, or can't bother to poll the leverage that the broker is providing.
FAPTurbo
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Feb 26, 2010 at 10:23
Am tempted to try this EA, however, there are so many conflicting reviews of it.I reckon the max lot sizing should be set according to the maximum SL for a trade/event that you are willing to lose for your account. E.g. looking at your 02.18.2010 21:30 consecutive trades loss of total $160, that's 16% down.Also, I don't know what was your open trade drawdown during testing, you might want to take note of that too.Best recommendation is to set your live account with the settings you used for the demo run, hey, 20%/mth is great. Then continue with your demo on the high lot settings. Once...
Fusion
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Feb 25, 2010 at 21:05
Yeah, I reckon managing trades with jumping TP would allow some slots to be re-opened for new trades to trigger. And also prevent a winning trade be reduced or worse, a loser.I wrote to FRWC suggesting some simple SL and no. of trades parameters they could introduce into the next iteration. Hopefully they implement some of it.
Fusion
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Feb 25, 2010 at 16:37
Thanks for replying. I notice that difference in brokers can make or break a trade, they are all significantly different. The trades that you closed with a small SL and then more than made up for with additional SuperVolcano trades in the opposite direction(net result ~ +160pips), are currently massive open losses on FRWC's own live test. 3x 670 pips= 2010 pips. Crazy!With a USD base, that's $225 is trading a 0.01lot/trade, or a 22.5% drawdown. FRWC is trading 0.02lots, making it a 45% drawdown.I think moral is that we should implement a SL system.
Fusion
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Feb 25, 2010 at 15:05
I noticed that you had 4 trades by SuperVolcano opened on 2010.02.18 23:52, then closed at 2010.02.23 22:01 with -280pips each. Compared to FRWC's concurrently running live test, their equivalent SuperVolcano trades are still open.Did you close these manually? Or did you define the limit in Fusion's settings.I see it paid off with your EA almost immediately re-opening in the opposite direction at 2010.02.23 22:03~04 (within 2-3 minutes) with a current floating pip of +315 each. Nice..
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 25, 2010 at 14:55
Looking at bugboy's fxbook again, his EA opened 4 of the equivalent Supervolcano trades (around 2010.02.18 23:52 for his +0GMT server). They then closed at 2010.02.23 22:01 for a SL of around -280pips. Whether this was done manually, or via a management EA, or strict definition in Fusion's settings, I don't know.This earlier closing allowed SuperVolcano to open 3 trades at 2010.02.23 22:03~04 (within 2-3 minutes) in the opposite direction for a current floating pip of +315 each.Clearly a managed SL is important in maximising this EA, along with handling it's high risk.In fact, ...
Fusion
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Feb 25, 2010 at 14:32
Hi bugboy, I'm testing the EA's myself and am posting on Steve Boardman's thread, <a href="http://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/frwc-fusion-v-alpari/18297,17">Steve Boardman's Fusion test</a>Can I ask what broker are you using for this test?And also, did you enable a defined SL level for SuperVolcano?
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 25, 2010 at 14:18
There's something clearly wrong with SuperVolcano. My earlier observation that it's logic will SL at approx. -280pips is off.I'm looking at FRWC's live run now and each of the 3 open SuperVolcano GBPJPY trades are -600 pips. That's -1800 pips. Equates to approx. -$202.50 if trading 0.01lots/$1k starting equity.That's for 3 trades. Had it opened 4, it'd be $270, 2400 pips. 24% drawdown trading the smallest lotsize possible. Something to consider.And since FRWC is trading 0.02lots, and it's 'lucky' to have only 3 instead of 4 open, it now has a drawdown of...
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 25, 2010 at 12:35
Completely agree.Still I suppose if changing the trade lot size to 0.01 from the 0.1 there should technically still be a 35.4% / 19 day gain, for the 21% risk/per HiRider trade.Assuming we get around 1 HiRider trade a day, 35.4%/19 = 1.86%/day using 21% risk/day => 11.3 : 1 Risk-Reward Ratio.If it's 2 HiRider trades a day, RRR = 22.6 :1A longer running time is needed to have a better statistical performance indicator of the % gain / unit time.I dunno, any of you guys getting better RRR's with your other bots?
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari
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Feb 25, 2010 at 11:32
First off, thanks to Steve for taking the trouble to set up his fxbook, and for splitting/tracking the separate EA's.You guys might also want to see bugboy's if you haven't already, <a href="http://www.myfxbook.com/members/bugboy/fusion/18154">bugboy's Fusion test</a>I was testing with multiple instances of MT4 running on different parameters and with Fusion/SuperVolcano/HiRider. I'm not running LMD, Straasha, or Neg-Correlation currently.2010.02.23 11:27 HiRider s2 EURUSD via Fusiona/c A(broker B) - $1k, fixed lot_0.01lot/$1000 equity, 7 of 10 trades ...
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