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Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 17:46
Amazing, I truly belive that guys (companies) doing that are true geniuses, would you agree?
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 17:42
Oh man, that's some other level thing, never heard of it, do you think it truly can be used?
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 17:41
I've heard of this documentary, Sang Lucci (some option trader) talks about it all the time. Thanks for share it man, I will get to it ASAP :-)Cheers.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 17:37
Really? That's really nice man, does your hedge fund uses Paul Rotter-like strategies? Can you say aprox how much money do you need to move the price 3 or 5 pips? (I've been wanting to know this for YEARS)What institutional broker do you find better?I think you have one of the most exciting and interesting jobs in the world. Im very interested.Sorry for the long post. Regards.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 15:31
In theory yes, but my money management method is a little more conservative, before I add a second position to complete my entire line (my line is 10% of the entire account) I need to 1.- have no risk at the first position (check) and 2.- Have no supply coming in above the price (non check). Also, the price didn't gave me any entry. I like to enter the market on no supply/demand bars.I will add to my position when/if we break the top showed in those charts.Regards.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 15:18
And now I moved the Stop Loss to break even, no risk, trying to enjoy the ride. Business as usual. :-)
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 15:15
More logic behind the above example.Regards.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 14:16
Here is another example of supply/demand, volume spread analysis in forex.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 13:47
I will check this out. I've read some years ago about Paul Rotter a.k.a. "the flipper" but his (amazing) work was in the german bunds. He was basically putting "ghost" orders, big money orders that never got executed because he cancelled just before price move towards the order's price, he manipulated really good that markets in my opinion, I don't know if he is still working. Some say he is now in Singapore.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 13:37
I would love to know more about how you work, I know that if you run a hedge fund you can't talk business with very freely, so I will not ask you about the fund, Im talking about what prime brokerage you use, what platforms, all the context that surounds you. If you want, of course.Regards.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 13:29
Yes, I have access to level 2 Market depth data with my retail broker, I don't trust this data very much, you would need a very big broker to catch some useful thing (IMO) because now we are talking about traded volume.About the patterns, here are another ones, this one is what a fake break would look like most of the time.Let me know what you think.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 13:25
Now this is very interesting. I want to check out the manipulation between 3 and 4pm , do you mind to tell me if this is US time or UK time? Thanks.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 05:30
Volume is the only way to detect when a market its being manipulated, they can see where your stop loss is, where are all the buy orders and all the sell orders, they have the news data weeks before any of us (retail traders). But they cannot hide their positions, volume gives them away.Regards.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 26, 2013 at 05:26
Take a look at this:http://forexmagnates.com/major-banks-face-another-class-action-lawsuit-alleging-fx-rates-manipulation/Richard Wyckoff talked 100 years ago about groups of big money traders working together to manipulate the markets, they were called "trading syndicates". Now, 100 years later, those "syndicates" use the chat in the bloomberg's PROFESSIONAL platform to accumulate and distribute, manipulating together the prices of ALL financial markets. Please, read the article, I was mind-blowed at reading this, I knew it has happened, its happening today and will st...
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:50
This is why, big money players "accumulate" buy orders, the accumulation phase takes time but it is worth the wait because if you accumulate buy orders carefully you will not pu the price up on your buying.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:45
Yes, the trend is good. I do the same thing, the chart just was meant to show an isolated example of the pattern, sorry for the confusion.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:44
Oh man, im going to get so much fundamental traders hating me on this one but IN MY HUMBLE OPINION fundamental/ news based trading is almost everytime incorrect, the newspapers tell you "why" a sudden move just happened, truth is markets work based on supply and demand, nothing else much.Also, retail traders have a lag in the news, we can't get the real news when its happening. The bloomberg and reuters terminals (professional platforms) have a news feed for professional traders and the news they read doesnt get out to the general public but several weeks later. This is the sad...
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:13
Volume spread analysis and the Wyckoff method teaches you how the markets really work. And they work based on this 3 laws:1.- Law of supply and demand2.- Law of effort vs results3.- Law of cause and effect
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:10
Here is another example, A is the push thru the demand zone with high volume, the next bars are on decreasing volume (test)B is what in VSA is called "no demand bar" with very little volume.Once the lower of that no demand bar is broken is a "safe" sell.
Any Volume spread analysis / Wyckoff traders?
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Skúsení obchodníci
Nov 25, 2013 at 22:05
Oh no man, I wish it was that easy. The truth is this principles work but as we all know every move in the market its different, it depends a lot on the context (what has happened a few bars before, how powerful is the zone we are trying to break, etc).For example in this chart from november 13 we saw a break with volume, test on decreasing volume BUT then a shake out bar happened with big volume. The smart money (i.e. big hedge funds, banks, institutions) drove the price back down to the lower of the level to catch stop losses from the retail traders buying the break out (stop losses of those...
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