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Forex Refuge Diskussion

Nov 30, 2010 at 06:20
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Mitglied seit Nov 27, 2010   3 Posts
Dec 01, 2010 at 21:29
hi,
I'm interested in your system. I would like to know how you could trade for me
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 01, 2010 at 22:04
What happened here dear Forex RefugeE: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexRefuge/forex-refuge/56265

Did you manage to blow that account. Would you update it?
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_17337
Mitglied seit Aug 26, 2010   93 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 19:31
Solar Believe it or not,your case is a sorry case. You are so so pathetic and so so hopeless.

Take a look at this wonderful site. Take a look at every user of this site.You will see how busy they are in ensuring that they improve their capabilities in fx trading but all you hopelessly do is look for errors and mistakes of fellow traders.

Are you this mentally derailed?

You keep asking me what happened to an account i stopped updating while you should spend your time improving your hopelessly dumb brain in ensuring you get better results.

A sensible person and in fact a positively minded person will look at my record and see the good side of it rather than wait and pray for my failure.

I believe you are a very very backward person and a satanist because only someone with a satanic inclination will have this derogatory and evil attitude of yours.

It is very clear that you will never ever change. Never. And it is a pity for you.

Lord have mercy on your soul.

Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 19:57 (bearbeitet Dec 02, 2010 at 20:16)
Hello Mr. InstaForex IB. Welcome again.
Yes, I'm the SATAN.

Sooooooo, what happened to this GREAT systems:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexRefuge/forex-refuge/56265
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/forex-refuge/51101,1 (deleted)

Please update so everybody could see it's blown, again.

Yes, I don't know why but it gives mi satanic pleasure to hunt for guys like you, account blowers.

Be sure I'm not the one who looks stupid in this community, I'm not the one who blows accounts every few weeks/months and then reappear with new CENTS account. You're the pathetic serial CENTS account blower.

Please be kind and UPDATE the above mentioned account!
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Nov 18, 2009   735 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 20:18
Ahha, Instaforex agent. Bloody hell, I must say, MyFXBook is turning into a scammers heaven. Just about anybody comes and posts a few demo investor passwords /like that gentleman called Sergey did the other day/ or offers something without at least a couple of months' REAL trading history. Brokers hidden /cents accounts/, arbitrage EAs, and all that.

Not to mention all that flaming between the 'competitors' - whose EA made more pips today. I remember we had those 'who can pee farther' competitions - back in elementary school.

In my opinion Solar is maybe a bit passionate but honestly he should receive payment from the site because he's ringing those alarm bells ...

Hmm, reminds me a song ... 😁
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 20:23
ForexRefuge posted:
You know what happened to those accounts?
I blew them up

YES I BLEW THEM

Hats off, no more questions.

Mr. Dumb Brain(SOLAR)
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_17337
Mitglied seit Aug 26, 2010   93 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 21:39 (bearbeitet Dec 02, 2010 at 21:47)
forexma posted:
    Hello Mr. InstaForex IB. Welcome again.
Yes, I'm the SATAN.

Sooooooo, what happened to this GREAT systems:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexRefuge/forex-refuge/56265
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/forex-refuge/51101,1 (deleted)

Please update so everybody could see it's blown, again.

Yes, I don't know why but it gives mi satanic pleasure to hunt for guys like you, account blowers.

Be sure I'm not the one who looks stupid in this community, I'm not the one who blows accounts every few weeks/months and then reappear with new CENTS account. You're the pathetic serial CENTS account blower.

Please be kind and UPDATE the above mentioned account!


You see how stupid you are.

I checked your trade record here and i can see how stupidly hopeless you are.

At least i have the perseverance to try again and again but you decided to waste your life looking for loop holes in other traders efforts after just one attempt and to think that you couldn't even use your brain to trade but had to depend on automated means. May GOD Have mercy on your soul.

I am really sorry for you.Honestly.

I can't remember ever trying to scam anyone or lure anyone to pay me for anything.

I have a web site that explains how to build a huge income from little or nothing if greed is curtailed. I was introduced to fx book by a friend not as a forum but as a website where i can have a clean sheet of trading records and i loved it due to its excellent analytical record.

I am not trying to hide the fact that its a cent account but any one with a little intelligence quotient will understand that whether you are trading a cent or dollar account,the trade result can't be different so my aim is to try and build an account from the scratch and not to lure anyone to pay me for anything.

But it seems some of you guys here are so backward in your mental reasoning that you see negativity in all intentions.

This is a sorry case.

As i wrote before,

I need you to build an account,demo/real i don't care but please try and spend more time on improving yourself and stop making a fool of yourself solar.

You are too backward and immature for my liking.

I still repeat; Please try and build an account up to 50% increase and i repeat,i don't care if it is Demo or real or whether you use Robot since your fish brain can't dare manual trading. Just build an account first then you will be worth giving credence to because as far as i am concerned,your mental state is far below mine.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 02, 2010 at 22:12

speki posted:
 Hmm, reminds me a song ... 😁

or... this one
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_17337
Mitglied seit Aug 26, 2010   93 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 08:02 (bearbeitet Dec 04, 2010 at 08:05)
Understanding Cent account.

Many traders are used to 3 main types of trading accounts.

1. standard accounts where the minimum lot size you can place is 10usd per pip which is 1 standard lot size.
2.Mini accounts where you can place the minimum of 1usd per pips which is 0.1lot size.
3.We have the Micro lot size where you can place the minimum of 10 cents per pip which is 0.01micro lot size.

Now we have the cent account which is ideal for very small capital and i decided to use this account type as a case study of raising a small capital since this account type can take 1 cent per pip thereby allowing you to trade with even 10usd.

What many people don't understand is that you can trade on a cent account as though you are trading on micro/mini/standard.

If you use 0.1lot size in a cent account,you are only trading 1cent per pip
If you use 1.0 lot size,it means you are trading 10cents per pip
You will see in that record that i used 4.0 most times
that is only 40cents per pip which is equivalent of 0.04micro lot.

so whether this account is traded on a mega account or nano account should not be the topic of discussion,i could as well put that capital in a micro account and it will reflect as 220usd.

I am not trying to create any false impression as it has been explained extensively on my web site.

Talking about money management.

Yes i know that the lot size used are kind of high but i only decided to see how aggressively i can build an account from the scratch and as i always advice my signal users'Trade my signals with good mm and you are made'

I may be a little greedy in the lot size i place maybe because i am very confident in my trading method. Nevertheless,i believe that if i don't succeed in building this small account,that does not mean that you can't as long as you trade with good mm.

Solar,i will be willing to teach you a good manual trading method for free if you don't mind because i believe you really need it. I have trained many traders from different countries in the world and i believe you should not doubt the ability of someone who can gather over 2500pip in less than 10trading days using manual trading method so send me a mail and i will add you to my skype for free tutoring😎
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 08:37

ForexRefuge posted:
Solar,i will be willing to teach you a good manual trading method for free if you don't mind because i believe you really need it. I have trained many traders from different countries in the world and i believe you should not doubt the ability of someone who can gather over 2500pip in less than 10trading days using manual trading method so send me a mail and i will add you to my skype for free tutoring😎

When you keep that profit for let's say.... 3 months give me a call again. Till now you've blown your first account here in 2 weeks, the second has taken you a month. This time it may take you longer but I doubt you will survive 3 months. The idea main idea of the forex trader is to survive and have profits in the long term which is something you obviously don't understand. Please stop fooling people with your stupid teaching classes, I bet they know what a nano/cents account is. We all could easily guess the purpose of your reappearence - to advertise your services. The fact that you can't show a single long term profitably traded account speaks for itself.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
forex_trader_17337
Mitglied seit Aug 26, 2010   93 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 09:59
You are still dumb enough not to understand my stand point.

I am not asking you to come for free training on monitoring my trading manner. Lets assume i am greedy and i can't help it.

What i am saying here is that you need training on trading with a good manual method and i will teach you free.Forget about blowing an account in a month or week.

You are definitely still monitoring my success or failure in the long run when you should be sensible enough to understand that a good mm technique will see you making great consistent profits with a method that gives over 400% profit in less than 10days of trading.

For the records, i am not advertising for anything and believe it or not,i have declined many offers to manage accounts from people here. I only feel pity for you that with over 5 years of experience,you got burnt trying live trading once using automated means and probably you feel its a hopeless situation.

So i understand the bitterness you have towards many traders here. I have read your post on many threads here and i see you are always against any successful trader here.

You wrote 'The idea main idea of the forex trader is to survive and have profits in the long term which is something you obviously don't understand. '

You are right but this is the point you fail to understand. My trading method is one thing,Trading discipline using good mm is another.

You also wrote'Till now you've blown your first account here in 2 weeks, the second has taken you a month. This time it may take you longer '

Do you think its easy to build a 50usd capital or even 100usd capital? These accounts are not my personal accounts but were opened for a purpose and that is to see how easy it is to build a small equity to a huge one so losing them due to one or two trading errors is not a big deal so stop brooding senselessly over these accounts. You lost a big equity base account in no time using robot but no one here killed you over that yet you are here giving yourself baseless high blood pressure over peanuts equity that were lost.

What i am offering you for free is the trading method i use,you play your part by using good mm.Forget my bad mm and wish me luck on that but you can harness that method for a greater success.

If you read the info on my web page.I wrote clearly that greed will not make some people have success in fx trading.Maybe i am the greedy type you leave that to me and watch where it leads me but take advantage of this great offer because i believe you really need help in your trading method. I pity your 5 year experience that has to end in baseless criticism of fellow traders.

And For the records,i don't think i am too greedy as people think but i guess that when they see 4.0 lot,they feel its much but that is only 0.04micro lot

Anyway Mr Solar, the choice is yours. Come and get a free swing training technique or continue to waste your time attacking me and fellow traders here.


Forex Refuge
Mitglied seit Jan 27, 2010   38 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 11:45
I personal have no problem with cent account, i've blown a couple of them myself. I use them mainly for testing ea's though. making 20% is making 20% no matter the account type. The only problem is as a trader, cent account gives a different feel for risk which i would not trade on a standard account. eg. making a cent/pip trade goes 200 pips against you is only $2, while trading standard lots its $2000.
There is nothing wrong with people trying different methods and posting it. Most strategy can be duplicated on any account type. My martingales will stay on penny account though.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 11:46 (bearbeitet Dec 04, 2010 at 12:16)
ForexRefuge posted:
    You are still dumb enough not to understand my stand point.

I am not asking you to come for free training on monitoring my trading manner. Lets assume i am greedy and i can't help it.

What i am saying here is that you need training on trading with a good manual method and i will teach you free.Forget about blowing an account in a month or week.

You are definitely still monitoring my success or failure in the long run when you should be sensible enough to understand that a good mm technique will see you making great consistent profits with a method that gives over 400% profit in less than 10days of trading.

For the records, i am not advertising for anything and believe it or not,i have declined many offers to manage accounts from people here. I only feel pity for you that with over 5 years of experience,you got burnt trying live trading once using automated means and probably you feel its a hopeless situation.

So i understand the bitterness you have towards many traders here. I have read your post on many threads here and i see you are always against any successful trader here.

You wrote 'The idea main idea of the forex trader is to survive and have profits in the long term which is something you obviously don't understand. '

You are right but this is the point you fail to understand. My trading method is one thing,Trading discipline using good mm is another.

You also wrote'Till now you've blown your first account here in 2 weeks, the second has taken you a month. This time it may take you longer '

Do you think its easy to build a 50usd capital or even 100usd capital? These accounts are not my personal accounts but were opened for a purpose and that is to see how easy it is to build a small equity to a huge one so losing them due to one or two trading errors is not a big deal so stop brooding senselessly over these accounts. You lost a big equity base account in no time using robot but no one here killed you over that yet you are here giving yourself baseless high blood pressure over peanuts equity that were lost.

What i am offering you for free is the trading method i use,you play your part by using good mm.Forget my bad mm and wish me luck on that but you can harness that method for a greater success.

If you read the info on my web page.I wrote clearly that greed will not make some people have success in fx trading.Maybe i am the greedy type you leave that to me and watch where it leads me but take advantage of this great offer because i believe you really need help in your trading method. I pity your 5 year experience that has to end in baseless criticism of fellow traders.

And For the records,i don't think i am too greedy as people think but i guess that when they see 4.0 lot,they feel its much but that is only 0.04micro lot

Anyway Mr Solar, the choice is yours. Come and get a free swing training technique or continue to waste your time attacking me and fellow traders here.


Forex Refuge

You still continue insulting me by calling me dumb, I've never insulted you, right?
You ain't got even a slightest idea what I can do and what I can't or whether I can trade manually or not.

I'm not monitoring your success because I still haven't seen such, I'm monitoring your constant failures to keep an account w/o blowing it longer than a month or so. You use the word consistent talking about your trading but I still haven't seen any consistency yet. If you manage to keep that ~400% profit in the next few months I will officially apologise but what we've witnessed till now is that you can blow any account in a matter of weeks. 10 days is nothing, 10 month would be other story.

You have read in other system discussions that I criticise, yes I do but I criticise those who deserve and there are a lot who deserve, guys who're here to rip off and mislead newbies and naive investors. If you look all my comments there are many systems which I like, system of honest traders who use reputable brokers and real accounts. I love good systems but the problem is there are only fewer here.

You say there's no difference between trading $10 and $10k but there is and what you're saying is controversial. If you blow $10 account in 2 weeks then you can blow $10k also in two weeks. When you trade $10 or $50 cents accounts you have to trade it the same way you would trade a $10k account which is controversial. And oh God, we've seen you blowing few accounts with ease.

I haven't lost any big equity base account yet, I have 10% draw down using robots and those are losses I would accept. EAs have to be tested and traded on real account with small lots before I'm convinced they're profitable. I don't like demo forward testing because it has proven to be pretty useless to me. 10% loss on ~$10k account is small price to pay if you want to use the same EA on $200k account next.

You can stick your free training offer.... you know where. The account in my profile represents only EA testing and you never witnessed what my manual trading looks like so it's quite pointless to comment my manual trading capabilities. I have no time for manual trading right now, that's why I'm focused on turning my manual methods in EAs which is very hard and time consuming.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Nov 18, 2009   735 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 11:54 (bearbeitet Dec 04, 2010 at 11:57)
FYI at Oanda there is no minimum deposit and the minimum trade size is 1 unit - 1/100.000th of a lot. Good broker! Alas, it won't show your $220 as $22000.

Oh, I see on your site that you're from Nigeria. Good! I've read about another FX trader from Nigeria. You should put that link in your profile or your signature, it took me 15 minutes to find it.

Let's see how your curve looks in a couple of months.



ForexRefuge posted:
    Understanding Cent account.

Many traders are used to 3 main types of trading accounts.
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 11:58 (bearbeitet Dec 04, 2010 at 12:12)
junglist00 posted:
There is nothing wrong with people trying different methods and posting it. Most strategy can be duplicated on any account type. My martingales will stay on penny account though.

This guy is commercial, don't you get it?
He's serial account blower and he's earning money only through his website's LiteForex IB links.
This is his third reappearance here after last two times he blowed the added accounts, stopped updating and disappeared. Then he starts new account, comes back here and starts being smart again and advertise his trading techniques till the day he blows the account again. All this process is repeating itself time after time. Remember my word, in no more than a month he will blow this account, stop updating it and disappear again till his next 'smart' move.
What he wants to do is to draw attention to his trading, when you PM or e-mail him he will advise you to open LiteForex account through his IB link and then he'll teach you for 'free' how to blow an account. The whole picture is perfectly clear for me.
HE HASN'T A SINGLE PROOF OF BEING A TRUSTWORTHY PERSON. WHERE IS THE LONG TERM PROFITABLE REAL ACCOUNT? 😁😁😁😁😁
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Nov 18, 2009   735 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 12:54
Serial account blower. 😁 😁 😁

Hmm, is there a bookies that takes bets on traders? I bet he'll last more than a month this time.

Hello, Nigeria, motherland of Dr. Alban.... and Mr. Forex Refuge! 😎


Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 13:11
Although many of the international scams come from Nigeria I don't have any prejudices and I have to say it doesn't matter if ForexRefugeE is from Nigeria or US. It's all about proving you're trustworthy and here is where Mr ForexRefugeE fails.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
Mitglied seit Nov 18, 2009   735 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 13:28
Well yes I'm aware that there are solid scams coming from that direction, but that does not change the fact that Dr. Alban, the dentist and rapper is from Nigeria too. A friend of mine went to his show last year - Dr. Alban is still touring!


Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Mitglied seit Nov 18, 2009   735 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 20:04
https://www.forexrefuge.com/MYSTERY%20UNVEILED2.htm

'GOD answered my prayers and i became so knowledgeable and i can make a very accurate analysis of price movement of any currency pair even if you wake me up in the middle of the night.'

He knows you're right.





Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Mitglied seit Feb 16, 2010   1332 Posts
Dec 04, 2010 at 20:28 (bearbeitet Dec 04, 2010 at 20:31)
speki posted:
    https://www.forexrefuge.com/MYSTERY%20UNVEILED2.htm

'GOD answered my prayers and i became so knowledgeable and i can make a very accurate analysis of price movement of any currency pair even if you wake me up in the middle of the night.'

He knows you're right.

OOOOOMMMMMGGGGGGG😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

ForexRefugeEEEE is the funniest guy on Earth. Maybe Warren Buffett is flying to Nigeria every night so he could listen our friend's sleep-talking.

'I became so knowledgeable.......' that's the cutest joke I've ever heard....😁😁😁😁😁😁
I doubt I could sleep tonight, my stomach hurts from laughing.
"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
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