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Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 13:26

There's actually such a conflict of interest here. I have high turnover systems that work for months at a time but I know for a fact they fail. The providers will basically take any EA, so if they can convince enough hapless victims to use my systems I'll coin it knowing full well it will come and nuke the account later.It's a wondrous thing how this just accepted as the norm in the fx business. Any other industry it be fraud and theft and people get sued stupid. Not in fx....

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 13:04

Well, I just went from pair to pair, and took the top strategy. Which ever made the most on that pair. Some pairs I added more than one strategy. I don't know, doesn't really matter, unless it's a macro account I'm not doing it anyway. I'll put down a little bit on a long shot, but no ways I'm putting down thousands....

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 12:54

Yes, it's the same thing alpari is offering, this is the site: http://www.tradency.comI don't know, one feels so out of control, but there's no denying the diversification and sheer volume of work that you have access to, I'd do it on a macro account no problem, but no way in hell I'm putting down 10k. I just took the 15 best systems and slapped them on, and in theory my equity curve will look like the one above.

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 12:26

No internet in the mountains!! Kung Fu is for girls!! Rather go Muah Thai in Thailand then. Half those fights end up with a knock out, that is where I saw the power of Tiger Balm the first time, one dash on the temple and said unconscious person is miraculously rendered conscious again... This kind of thing is impossible to monitor anyway. Can't say I have much faith in it...although I do know from bitter experience systems work for a while then fail, no ways I can produce this volume of work, so maybe that becomes the job then, select the right system for the right pair for the right mark...

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 11:54

I have no idea actually. I loaded the thing and now we see, but I'll be buggered if I'm going to put down $10 000 for real. Thousand maybe, but not $10k. And then Alpari is fibbing about the results to. Minimum trade size is 0.1 lots. On $2.5k account that will wipe you out in an afternoon.But I can't find any comments on the web about this systematic. Nobody is really talking about it, I don't know if that's a good or bad thing...

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 11:52

Isch, so many choices, I think I like this one best:<a href='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph_xP.png' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph_xP.png'/></a>Let's see from 10k to 300k in 12 months, so that's 3000% for the year, not bad for a few mouse clicks.

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 11:29

So this is the plan, I'll go get some money on a rig, put it into Systematic, go to China and go practice Kung Fu with the wise Shaolin monks in the mountains for two years, then when I get back I'll be rich, fit and dangerous!!

Your definition of a junk system!? अंदरसामान्य Jun 26, 2010 at 11:14

Lee,I think something like 50% or 80% of all trades now days are automated. It's what computers were designed to do and you can see now with the HFT that's happening that's not a question of man vs. machine anymore. It's now about the fastest machine.Down side of that is as someone pointed out after the flash crash a month or so ago that the next LTC will take 5 minutes to happen. We can go from stable economies to world changing depression faster than I can make a cup of soup if the wrong machine goes haywire. Something like 25% of the Dow Jones volumes are traded by one guy.....

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 10:54

You know what, I didn't like that equity curve, so this is going to be my new equity curve:<a href='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph_H8.png' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph_H8.png'/></a>

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 10:13

Apparently this is going to be my equity curve:<a href='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph.png' target='_blank'><img src='http://www.myfxbook.com/files/Elkart/Graph.png'/></a>

Could somebody please lend me $150 अंदररणनीतियां Jun 26, 2010 at 10:09

Run it on demo for a week or so and if it works I'll lend you $110 bucks...

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 09:28

I registered for a demo, slapped the first 7 on that is supposed to be making money and set them all to 1%. So in theory it shouldn't use more than 7% of the equity. Now we see....

Alpari Systematic अंदरअनुभवी ट्रेडर्स Jun 26, 2010 at 08:49

Anyone have any experience with Alpari systematic?

Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 26, 2010 at 02:42

Look, there's always a chance you can pull it off, for a while at least as long as nothing rocks your boat, but I've had pages and pages of code taking care of risk and trying to deal with the losers and it works for a while, but I wouldn't try a build a future on this type of system. Long term you're at the mercy of unforeseen events and they will come nuke you eventually.I'm the first to admit I'm struggling with fx, although I can do systems that will make money for periods of time. But that's not really my goal. Doesn't help to have a system that wipes me o...

Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 26, 2010 at 02:35

I have those to. Partial TP's and partial SL's. Doesn't work long term. In ranging market sure, but take a good look at early 2009 on USD.If ever we are set up for a short squeeze on EUR it's now. Never in the history of the world has so many people had such a one sided position on a currency. Except on the Zim dollar maybe and we know how that ended. I don't know what the trigger will be, but at some point there's going to be short covering on euro and then it's the dollars turn. No grid will survive that.

Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 26, 2010 at 02:30

Pyramiding works, the exact opposite of what you're doing. Position building. Stopping out the losses as they occur and letting the winners run. But then you have to have some insight into the market and make a directional call.

Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 26, 2010 at 02:19

I have plenty positive to say sometimes where appropriate, but on grids and open dangler systems I'm very negative yes. Especially if the idea is to manage client funds with the systems as the outcome is inevitable. Last time I did what you're doing now it cost me $15 000. Over and above the money factor the lesson you're about to learn is going to take months. And that's a greater cost than the money. Grids can't work, they're fundamentally flawed. You limit the profits while letting your losses run. The VG system is a failure. Even though it made money it would event...

Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 26, 2010 at 00:51

There just is no way to deal with the dangler problem long term. You cannot out bank a big move.

First account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 25, 2010 at 16:48

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Testing-account अंदरट्रेडींग सिस्टम Jun 25, 2010 at 15:54

Soeren,You're obviously new at this. I can't fault you're enthusiasm, but you're just barking up the wrong tree. It's not going to happen no matter how clever you get.

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